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concernedmomma

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Mar 14 08 3:44 PM

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Can we talk about the implications of these riots?

Notice the protesters are reported as being peaceful yet the police charged in and got violent (black flag?) Now they are bringing out the military and locking everything down.

The internet there has been taken down. No facebook/twitter/ how do they do that? I thought the net was worldwide and to take it down you had to take it all down?

Who is this leader they want to oust? Who is it the people want to put in? Either way wont it be a backroom deal to make an American puppet like many of the other 'world leaders'?

I ask here because I trust you guys and will trust your answers unlike trying to read blog/site/FUX News/who knows and trying to figure it out.

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Mar 14 08 4:49 PM

The Egyptian government can control the ISP (internet service providers) in the country, which are likely the only ones Egyptians have access to. That's how they can shut access down.
 
Hosni Mubarak is part of the secular socialist regime that has led Egypt since the early 1950s: Gamal Abdul Nasser - who built the big dam and nationalized the Suez Canal; then Anwar Sadat - who made peace with Israel and was assassinated; and then his vice president, Mubarak, who has been in power 30 years.
 
Egyptians see this regime as having failed multiple times (allied with the Soviet Union, beaten by Israel in two wars - 1967, 1973), then making peace with Israel, getting friendly with the US, failing to create jobs or holding prices down. The country is overcrowded; a lot of people are turning to Islamic fundamentalism.
 
There is a real reaction to pro-Western governments in the Middle East; a lot of people want a return to "pure Islamic rule." That's what's likely to happen in Egypt. They don't much like the US because we've helped prop up this regime since the 1970s.


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Mar 14 08 4:54 PM

Oh, and the dam that Nasser built way upriver has seriously affected the Nile's regular flooding patterns, and has probably reduced crop yields downstream, which has led to higher food prices. Another example of modern civilization messing with nature, and having unintended consequences.

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Mar 14 08 5:04 PM

Thank you for the answer tlr I appreciate it.

I understand about the servers but I thought they were an independant entity that could choose to turn off/on at the gov's request or be forcefully shut down however I assumed there were so many servers that it would be really hard for the gov to forcefully shut them all down. I guess it was easier than I thought. I am wondering how easy it really would be for them to turn the internet off here in America.

It's intresting to watch this because this is perhaps the way it would happen in America as well. you can see what steps the gov takes and when so you can better plan your own responses.

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Mar 14 08 5:11 PM

There are probably only a handful of ISPs in Egypt, and they are probably government-run. There are a lot more in the US; it would be harder to shut them all down, but not impossible.

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Mar 14 08 5:20 PM

Al Jazeera English version is possibly the best place to watch news of the Egyptian revolution.

Hilary Clinton has issued a strong statement against violence on the part of the Egyptian governement.

Al Jazeera

" A nighttime curfew has begun in the Egyptian cities of Cairo, Alexandria and Suez, after a day where thousands of protesters took the streets, demanding an end to Husni Mubarak's 30-year presidency.

The curfew was implemented on Friday on the orders of the president, along with an order that the military take charge of security, amid violent clashes occurred between police and protesters.

Mubarak, "as commander in chief, has declared a curfew in the governorates of Greater Cairo, Alexandria and Suez from 6pm to 7am starting on Friday until further notice," state television announced.

The president "has asked the armed forces, in cooperation with the police, to implement the decision, and maintain security and secure public establishments and private property," it said."

The Great Spirit is everywhere; he hears whatever is in our minds and our hearts, and it is not necessary to speak to Him in a loud voice. - Black Elk, Lakota

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Mar 14 08 9:07 PM

Ok... I read here a good bit but have not yet posted. 
If you have not yet read the Anonymous statement re: the rioting in N.Africa, do yourself a favor and do so here
Between Wikileaks & Anonymous & what's happening on the ground, this just got a whole lot more interesting.

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Mar 14 08 9:36 PM

And don't forget my recent post in the prophecy section("another very interesting prophecy") which indicated that Egypt would become the 51st state within a fairly short period. I believe TPTB want control of Giza. They may already have it, but would be happier I suspect if they can move in "reinforcements." That's THE most critical position on the planet from what I've researched although there are a few others that aren't too far behind.

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Mar 15 08 2:11 AM

Regarding the internet thing, I read an article (probably here, lol) about Obama wanting to implement a "kill switch" for the internet here, to <purple on> be used only in case of a national emergency regarding cyber threats, of course <purple off> (during an emergency, wouldn't you want more information getting out to people rather than less?--I'm just sayin').   Anyway, then tonight he makes a statement about the Egypt thing and one of the first things he says is that the Egyptian gov't should turn the internet and cell phones back on because people have the right of free speech.  I'm screaming at the tv screen (I've been doing that a lot lately--doesn't seem to be helping any)--hypocrite!  And also, freedom of speech?  In a muslim country?  Really?  (while Mubarak's gov't might be called "secular", I don't think that term has exactly the same meaning there as we would interpret it here)

More about the kill switch here:  http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/

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Mar 15 08 4:30 AM

Yeah I just love how they urge for none violence as well. Really? where was that bullsheet when people were innocently protesting the elections here in Amerika? Seems to me they were more than ready to interfer with anyone that was purporting to be peaceful.

What a joke .."Yo dude ..turn the nets back on and play nice bro". hahahahahaha

bleh ..screaming at the TV only scares the dog in my house ....Poor dog .grin

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May 7 08 8:48 PM

So watchin the news in the background today (Cnn) and they did a thing about The NEW Egyptian Government.

It is of course run by the military and their first rule they have set about implimenting is ..All Rioters will be prosecuted =shot.

Apparently they are dragging away/imprisoning people who dare to question the new .Gov.

The Irony eh? Stunning.


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This incident with Lara Logan has always puzzled me greatly because of the impressions I get when watching this tape. I keep getting the impression that Lara is not greatly traumatized and that she knew what was going to happen as well as her crew. It seems like a well engineered media event but for what purpose I have no idea. -- J.E. Ante

Lara Logan breaks her silence --60 Minutes

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